Interview Erik Wieërs: "Public space as a meeting place and not simply as an intermediate space to get from A to B"
Since 2020, Erik Wieërs has been the new Flemish Master Builder. He and his team want to make Flemish people more familiar with the social dimension of architecture. The new ambition note is entitled: Creating opportunities for encounters. We met him for a conversation about the openness of open space, streets on a human scale and the role of architects, authorities and residents.
Do people realise that public space belongs to everyone and that they have a say in it?
It is gradually happening more and more. You see pieces of space being transferred to residents who then take care of management and maintenance. Municipalities saying: this place is now yours. Not only does this mean more responsibility, people also deal with it differently. They make agreements together and connect with each other in this way. Public space as a place to build a relationship with your neighbourhood and your neighbours. I think that is a fine evolution.
Have we forgotten about meeting?
Verleerd not perhaps. The idea of making encounter central actually predates corona. Only that pandemic made things even sharper. For the design of space, we define what is private, collective or public. This works its way into the social dimension of architecture. With a surge in virtual encounters during the corona crisis, people are now realising how important real, physical encounters are. And therefore also how important it is to design public space as a meeting place and not just as a middle space to get from A to B.
Have architecture and mobility made for fewer encounters over the years?
If you look at the whole spatial trajectory, yes. It already starts with a housing ideal that is preferably as far away from urban areas as possible, our 'private ideal'. And then when everyone ends up living so far apart, and you have to go to work, school, shopping or visiting, people are more likely to reach for the car. Spatial planning and mobility are very closely linked. We have always started from a kind of functionalism: if everyone has their own place to live and we make sure that everything is connected quickly and efficiently, then we are good. But we forget that in the meantime you build a society in the process. By arranging and sometimes (temporarily) appropriating space, questions also arise about what collective space or public space should and can be. We must dare to think about the different functions and aspects of space. Now more than ever.
How do we move Flanders towards a future of connection and proximity?
Herewith a clear invitation to policy. How we design our space touches on many aspects of our lives. In many places, we can still gain space and certainly soften and green. You then couple that with an operation for more facilities and services. We would have to abandon the economic model of mass production in large centres or large supermarkets or shops where you go for a pot of paint and are tempted to do so by car.
In a fragmented landscape such as in Belgium, it is much more difficult to ensure a good spread of local shops, services and facilities, unlike in Paris, for example. And it is even harder for a remote village versus a medium-sized city. Let's already start making our cities more liveable. That seems like a great idea to me. And that can only be done by making the city less car-intensive, more traffic-free and greener too. That way, you ensure that living in the city becomes attractive. And that people's 'dream' or ambition to live (far) outside the city dies out. Simply because it is more practical and pleasant in the city.
Our entire society has been split into the individual on the one hand and the public, or the whole community, on the other. And along the way, we have lost sight of the intermediate scale of the collective. In the 1960s, the family was seen as the core of society. That family, of course, had to have a house. And the accompanying car was the expression of individual freedom. No one had heard of global warming back then. Meanwhile, the world has changed dramatically, only our image of housing and mobility has stuck somewhat. Today, having a car or a detached house has become a kind of status symbol, an ideal from the idea: I live secluded and quiet. An illusion, because in all those subdivisions, people live fairly close together. There are places in the city where it is much quieter to live, with less traffic than 'on the outskirts'. So we are left with a very persistent housing ideal that has also become a social ideal.
I suspect that a lot of people are now coming of age and find that they are becoming isolated in their wooded allotment, with nowhere to go on foot or by bike. All of them are now wondering whether that housing ideal of the 1970s is really so ideal.
So why does living in the city not fit the ideal picture of living?
I can understand that somewhere. Car traffic often makes many cities far too crowded. Cities have a diverse crowd, which still puts some people off. And then it is also very expensive to live there. An important issue, because you can go around saying to everyone, you should live in the city, but that is simply not possible for everyone. I recently received a letter from someone living in Kontich: "Mr master builder, you have easy talk. I work in the port and I drive there in my old diesel because there is no bus at 5am. And I can't live on the Island because I can't afford it." There is nothing to argue with that when we look at our flawed mobility system.
The idea behind ecology, greening and living in the city should not lead to a lot of people getting left out because they have other priorities or are not wealthy enough to pay for that new ideal. It is important both to tackle certain challenges collectively and to make it affordable to live in the city again.
What role does participation play in this change process?
There is a lot of local knowledge you don't know about as a designer. If you involve residents, you bring them into the debate and automatically create support. Thanks to participation, you can make people realise that there are limits and that the possibilities are not endless.
Participation also works both ways. On the one hand, you give someone the feeling that you are taking their concerns into account. On the other hand, people suddenly realise that not everyone has the same priorities and that you have to look for a compromise or common denominator. I often hear from people involved in such change processes that the opposition wears off after a while. So pilot projects are an ideal way to get people to look at their neighbourhood differently. With pilot projects on living neighbourhoods, for instance, our team creates examples for other municipalities so that they in turn see new opportunities to rethink the function of public space, to make it more qualitative and people-friendly again.
From individual to collective
Problems related to liveability, mobility or climate are often linked to individuality in our society. These are all problems that you can solve much more efficiently at the community level. So on the scale of a neighbourhood or district. And then you have to conclude that we have no structure for this in Belgium, because everyone is in their own little area, their own plot with their own boundaries. We urgently need to start thinking about how to break that pattern of individuality. We have to realise that there is also such a thing as a collective, and that we don't have to solve or regulate everything on our own. The communal level is welcome to regain some attention and weight.
What can we do to break collectivity?
I think there is some trepidation on the part of the government, that they don't really know how that fits into their whole policy pyramid. On top of that, there are legal hurdles in Flanders to properly set up a cooperative. The government still has some work to do there to get that right. When you consciously involve people in such a public transformation process, I think you can get far. One example is a new open call in Genk where outdated social housing needs a new master plan. An anthropologist has done extensive preliminary research there. Many local residents were thus able to help think about what is needed in their neighbourhood to better connect people. When such a spatial and social issue is addressed in the same breath, I think a lot is possible to work together on cities, neighbourhoods and streets on a human scale.
About Erik Wieërs
Erik Wieërs is architect, filosoof, docent Ontwerpwetenschappen aan de UA en medeoprichter van het Antwerpse Collectief Noord. Sinds 2020 leidt hij het Team Vlaams Bouwmeester.
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